Is there anyone that knows the history of Carson Newman and Tusculum football prior to joining the SAC in D2?

(09-03-2023 09:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Is there anyone that knows the history of Carson Newman and Tusculum football prior to joining the SAC in D2?

Why would a Bucs fan care? And, when we have to resort to looking at this sort of thing - perhaps that tells us how fast and how far down this current ETSU coaching regime has taken this program.

We should care because its the next game.

We should care because Carson Newman use to come to JC and beat the holy cow sh!t out of ETSU.

If they do that next week then u should be worried.

(09-04-2023 06:27 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 09:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Is there anyone that knows the history of Carson Newman and Tusculum football prior to joining the SAC in D2?

Why would a Bucs fan care? And, when we have to resort to looking at this sort of thing - perhaps that tells us how fast and how far down this current ETSU coaching regime has taken this program.

Playing a D2 school is semi normal for FCS level schools. Kinda like an FBS team playing us. ETSU played Mars Hill in 2018 and UVA Wise in 2021, two of arguably some of the best seasons of ETSU football in program history.

I'm not sold on the current coach and staff, but considering we had a similar level team on the schedule just two years ago during one of the most successful seasons in ETSU football history, complaining about it now seems to be either willful ignorance, or someone deliberately wanting to cause trouble.

(09-04-2023 10:34 AM)ETSUfan#2 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:27 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 09:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Is there anyone that knows the history of Carson Newman and Tusculum football prior to joining the SAC in D2?

Why would a Bucs fan care? And, when we have to resort to looking at this sort of thing - perhaps that tells us how fast and how far down this current ETSU coaching regime has taken this program.

Playing a D2 school is semi normal for FCS level schools. Kinda like an FBS team playing us. ETSU played Mars Hill in 2018 and UVA Wise in 2021, two of arguably some of the best seasons of ETSU football in program history.

I'm not sold on the current coach and staff, but considering we had a similar level team on the schedule just two years ago during one of the most successful seasons in ETSU football history, complaining about it now seems to be either willful ignorance, or someone deliberately wanting to cause trouble.

Absolutely nothing wrong with playing a D2 game once a year. Most of the powerful SEC teams play an FCS team every year and get credit for the win. It is a chance for the Bucs to hopefully get playing time for many players who would not otherwise get it and let the coaches get to see everyone play during an actual game.

(09-04-2023 10:44 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 10:34 AM)ETSUfan#2 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:27 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 09:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Is there anyone that knows the history of Carson Newman and Tusculum football prior to joining the SAC in D2?

Why would a Bucs fan care? And, when we have to resort to looking at this sort of thing - perhaps that tells us how fast and how far down this current ETSU coaching regime has taken this program.

Playing a D2 school is semi normal for FCS level schools. Kinda like an FBS team playing us. ETSU played Mars Hill in 2018 and UVA Wise in 2021, two of arguably some of the best seasons of ETSU football in program history.

I'm not sold on the current coach and staff, but considering we had a similar level team on the schedule just two years ago during one of the most successful seasons in ETSU football history, complaining about it now seems to be either willful ignorance, or someone deliberately wanting to cause trouble.

Absolutely nothing wrong with playing a D2 game once a year. Most of the powerful SEC teams play an FCS team every year and get credit for the win. It is a chance for the Bucs to hopefully get playing time for many players who would not otherwise get it and let the coaches get to see everyone play during an actual game.

The issue is not playing a DII team, the issue obviously is the degree of regression of this program, one the beat Vanderbilt during that successful run. How the hell have we fallen so far and so fast? What is going on here? Other peer schools that change coaching staffs don’t experience this. SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG HERE!!! We are in jeopardy of losing to Carson-Newman.

(09-04-2023 10:44 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 10:34 AM)ETSUfan#2 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:27 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 09:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Is there anyone that knows the history of Carson Newman and Tusculum football prior to joining the SAC in D2?

Why would a Bucs fan care? And, when we have to resort to looking at this sort of thing - perhaps that tells us how fast and how far down this current ETSU coaching regime has taken this program.

Playing a D2 school is semi normal for FCS level schools. Kinda like an FBS team playing us. ETSU played Mars Hill in 2018 and UVA Wise in 2021, two of arguably some of the best seasons of ETSU football in program history.

I'm not sold on the current coach and staff, but considering we had a similar level team on the schedule just two years ago during one of the most successful seasons in ETSU football history, complaining about it now seems to be either willful ignorance, or someone deliberately wanting to cause trouble.

Absolutely nothing wrong with playing a D2 game once a year. Most of the powerful SEC teams play an FCS team every year and get credit for the win. It is a chance for the Bucs to hopefully get playing time for many players who would not otherwise get it and let the coaches get to see everyone play during an actual game.

Obviously we can disagree- but my view is that we absolutely should not ever play a D2 game in either basketball (except for exhibition games) or especially football. My understanding is that these types of games do not count toward consideration for the playoffs and playing a non-D1 game is often the reason that a team is not selected as an at-large team. It is one of the reasons that teams from 1-2 conferences typically dominate the at-large selections due to their strength of schedule. Obviously this isn't a consideration for us this year, but we never know when it will bite us. My take is that these games (or games against FCS opponents) should occur primarily in the spring to replace the spring scrimmage.

(09-04-2023 11:14 AM)etsubuc Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 10:44 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 10:34 AM)ETSUfan#2 Wrote:  

(09-04-2023 06:27 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(09-03-2023 09:00 PM)andybible1995 Wrote:  Is there anyone that knows the history of Carson Newman and Tusculum football prior to joining the SAC in D2?

Why would a Bucs fan care? And, when we have to resort to looking at this sort of thing - perhaps that tells us how fast and how far down this current ETSU coaching regime has taken this program.

Playing a D2 school is semi normal for FCS level schools. Kinda like an FBS team playing us. ETSU played Mars Hill in 2018 and UVA Wise in 2021, two of arguably some of the best seasons of ETSU football in program history.

I'm not sold on the current coach and staff, but considering we had a similar level team on the schedule just two years ago during one of the most successful seasons in ETSU football history, complaining about it now seems to be either willful ignorance, or someone deliberately wanting to cause trouble.

Absolutely nothing wrong with playing a D2 game once a year. Most of the powerful SEC teams play an FCS team every year and get credit for the win. It is a chance for the Bucs to hopefully get playing time for many players who would not otherwise get it and let the coaches get to see everyone play during an actual game.

Obviously we can disagree- but my view is that we absolutely should not ever play a D2 game in either basketball (except for exhibition games) or especially football. My understanding is that these types of games do not count toward consideration for the playoffs and playing a non-D1 game is often the reason that a team is not selected as an at-large team. It is one of the reasons that teams from 1-2 conferences typically dominate the at-large selections due to their strength of schedule. Obviously this isn't a consideration for us this year, but we never know when it will bite us. My take is that these games (or games against FCS opponents) should occur primarily in the spring to replace the spring scrimmage.

I understand completely why people do not want to play a D2 game but most of our competitors do it. Most SEC teams play FCS teams and the NCAA gives them full credit for the win and they can use it towards their six game bowl game eligibility. Maybe someday we can get our program to the level to where they do not want to play these games. But this Saturday will be a true indicator as to where out coaching staff is with our program. If it is close them we really need to consider making changes.

Well unfortunately, we are going to put a quarterback out there this Saturday that can’t throw the ball and is a turnover machine. If Carson Newman can stop the run, it will be a close game.

(09-05-2023 08:25 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  Well unfortunately, we are going to put a quarterback out there this Saturday that can’t throw the ball and is a turnover machine. If Carson Newman can stop the run, it will be a close game.

And just think that only two years ago, under a different coach, ETSU throttled a Power 5 team.

(09-05-2023 08:25 AM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  Well unfortunately, we are going to put a quarterback out there this Saturday that can’t throw the ball and is a turnover machine. If Carson Newman can stop the run, it will be a close game.

It shouldn’t be. If we have a decent O-line, any QB should have plenty of time to throw. And big holes to run through. Hopefully they do their job.